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The Lending Club IRA : Peer-to-Peer Enters the Retirement Realm

February 3, 2012 By Shane Ede 8 Comments

You already know that I like Lending Club as an investment vehicle.  The returns are good (or great, depending on your default rate), and I like the idea that my money isn’t going to line the pockets of some corporation, but is being used to help someone who needs a loan get a better rate than they might get at a financial institution or through credit card usage.

Recently, Lending Club started offering IRA accounts to the lenders.  My first thought, was something along the lines of “that sounds kinda cool”.  But, then I got to thinking about it.  Many of us struggle to put money away for our retirements.  Do we really want what little money we have put away in an investment that carries as much risk as Lending Club notes carry?  I like risky investments, but even I don’t think I’d want all of my retirement money in these notes.

One use that could redeem it is using it as a supplemental IRA.  If you’ve already got a 401(k) and an IRA that you use to invest in more traditional, lower risk, investments, you could use a Lending Club IRA as a way to diversify further and add a little more risk to your portfolio.  That would also allow for keeping a higher percentage of your 401(k) and standard IRA in investments that are a little less risky.  Of course, that would also mean balancing your investment portfolio over several accounts.

I tried to figure out some of the finer details of the Lending Club IRA through their site, but either it isn’t all that clear, or I’m just a bit dense.  😉  So, I emailed them to get a few questions answered.  Here’s what I found out.  The accounts are administered through a company called Self Directed IRAs.  I’m not all that familiar with what a self directed IRA is, but it basically looks like an IRA account that you can use to invest in just about anything.  They offer several different IRA “types”, so it will depend on which the LC IRA falls under to determine what other investments you can add to your account besides the LC notes.  It doesn’t seem out of the question to assume that you would be able to invest in stocks and such as well.  (I’ve replied to the email I got to try and determine this for sure)  Based on what I was seeing on the administrators website, it was looking like the account might be pretty heavy in fees.  The email from Lending Club managed to answer that question as well.

There are no fees associated with a Lending Club IRA with a balance of at least $5,000 in the first year (you have all year to reach this), or $10,000 in the second year and beyond.

If you don’t meet those requirements, the account carries a $100 annual fee.  Pretty hefty if you don’t meet the requirements.  There’s two ways to look at that, however.  If you’re IRA is large enough, it shouldn’t be a problem to keep $10,000 in Lending Club notes and still keep your risk diversification.  If you’re IRA is smaller though, you’d be automatically raising the risk of the account my meeting the requirements.

Anyway you look at it, I don’t think it will be the most popular IRA account around.  But, it’s nice that they offer it for those of their customers who want a tax sheltered way to take advantage of peer-to-peer investing.  You can read more over on their site: Lending Club IRA.

What are your thoughts on the Lending Club IRA?  Too risky for retirement funds?  Good as a part of the retirement portfolio?

Filed Under: Investing, Retirement Tagged With: ira, lending club, lending club ira, p2p investing, p2p lending, peer lending, peer to peer lending, Retirement

I Quit My Job: Overcoming the Fear

February 1, 2012 By Shane Ede 26 Comments

One question I’ve been asked over and over when talking about quitting my job is how I overcame the fear of not being able to find a new job, or not being able to pay my bills.  Obviously, both of those questions played a part in the decision.  My answer might surprise some.  I didn’t.  At least not to the point that they’ve completely left my mind.

At the moment, I’m not looking for another job.  I took on a part-time job, working for a local computer repair shop, and I’m not even looking for a new full-time job.  The part-time job doesn’t pay anything even close to what I was making at my full-time job.  And, the truth is, I don’t care.  So far, using the income from my wife’s full-time job, and the income from my part-time job, along with some of the income I make from this site and others, we’ve been able to pay the bills.  We haven’t been able to keep up with our debt repayments on the same aggressive schedule that we had been on before, but we can pay the bills.

Even so, making the decision to quit my job meant overcoming the fear of both of those things.  And, I did it.

Almost a year before I quit my job, I wrote a post on another site of mine, entitled Overcoming Fear.  In it, I wrote about facing fear with rationality.  Looking at fear with a rational eye, and truly, asking “What’s the worst that could happen?”  I knew, during the decision making process, that the part-time job was available, and that it would likely be mine for the asking.  The worst that could happen there was for that particular job to become unavailable.  But, there are other part time jobs available here, and I could take one of those.  The hours at another one of them might be worse, and the pay might even be worse, but jobs were available.  The worst that could happen was that I could end up having to take a different part-time job that I wouldn’t like as much.  The worst that could happen with our bills would be if we couldn’t make ends meet.  The absolute worst case scenario would be if we were pushed to a point, financially, where we would have to declare bankruptcy.   Even that is was a pretty remote possibility, because I could always take on a second part-time job to help bring more money in.

I found the worst case scenarios, understood what the ramifications would be for each, and took a leap.  And, in the end, I’m very happy that I did.  My stress levels have gone way down.  I enjoy what I’m doing again.  And, I’m in control of what happens with my life, now.

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Overcoming fear can be about the best case scenario too.  With any decision, there is always something that is a positive.  For me, the positives of getting out of a situation that I was suffering in, regaining control of my life, and stopping the trade of my time for money, made it well worth my while.

Do you fear?  I encourage to read my post on Overcoming Fear, look at your fears with a rational eye, and ask yourself what the worst case scenario is.  Some fears aren’t worth fearing.

Share with us.  What are some fears that you’ve overcome?  What are some fears that you want to overcome?
photo credit: notsogoodphotography

Filed Under: The Beating Broke Story Tagged With: fear, I quit my job, overcoming fear, quitting

Take a Challenge To Start the New Year Off Right

January 30, 2012 By MelissaB 14 Comments

If you would like to start 2012 on the right financial footing and want to do something that is attainable, consider taking a challenge.  Two of my favorite challenges are spending challenges and pantry challenges.  Take either or both of these challenges, and you will find extra money to do with what you please—to save for a new vehicle or home, to bulk up your emergency fund or to snowflake on your debt to get it paid off faster.

I have already spoken about the spending challenge, otherwise referred to as the No Spend Month as an excellent way to raise money for Christmas gifts, but it is also good to
do another time of the year.  Choose one month when you limit your spending for disposable items such as groceries, entertainment and gas by as much as 50% of what you typically spend.  You will find yourself being mindful of what you spend money on because there is very little money to spend.  If you normally spend $800 a month on groceries, entertainment and gas and you vow to slash that amount by half for one month, you now have an extra $400 available to meet your financial goals.  (I often have a no spend month in February.  The psychological boost of knowing it is the shortest month of the year makes it easier to stay the course.)

Save MoneyAnother challenge I try to take at least one month a year, but ideally two months a year, is a pantry challenge.  All of us have some extra items lurking in the cabinet.  I often buy ingredients for a certain recipe, but then if I don’t get a chance to make that recipe, I often still have the non-perishable items on the shelf a few months later.  With a pantry challenge, you try to use up what you have.  A common misconception is that you are not allowed to grocery shop at all.  That is not true.  Just like a spending challenge, you set a designated amount you want to spend.  Say you spend $600 a month to feed your family of five.  During a pantry challenge, you decide you will only spend $200 for the month.  That means you must try to make meals from ingredients you already have on hand.  This is a great way to not only save money but also to use up food that may be nearing its expiration date so it doesn’t go to waste.

If you would like a little extra money for your financial goals this year but you don’t have the time or inclination to work more hours, having a spending or pantry challenge may be the perfect solution to generating more money in a limited time frame.

Have you taken part in a challenge before?  Were you successful?

photo credit: 401K

Filed Under: Frugality, Saving Tagged With: goals, new year, no spend, resolutions, Saving

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